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nibor100
917 posts
msg #157852
Ignore nibor100
10/12/2021 11:15:58 AM

Last we heard, Redversa721 was going to be on travel Monday so would not be doing his weekly live test of the TRO Crock Pot 2.0 filter that he posted on Aug 29th earlier in this thread.

I'm going to quasi paper trade the top 20 stocks from that filter's run on Saturday, using SF, and Trading View for intraday data, and Excel for analysis.

1. These are the 20 stocks:
NCTY
BTBT
SI
ANY
CAN
MARA
SGOC
CARV
DAO
TYHT
ETHE
VTNR
AEHR
MOSY
LPI
CPE
MDIA
LMFA
BNED
DLPN

2. At the beginning of his live tests, I believe Redversa721 was spending about 20 minutes after the Open to set up his 2% exit profit stops and he consistently found that many of the stocks gain their 2% very quickly on the first day of the week.

So my first idea for Monday was to see how much profit could be gained by only being in the market for 30 minutes on the first day of the week and exiting all remaining open positions at 10am and theoretically taking the rest of the week off.

3. Since SF info is 20 minutes delayed, I ran my corrected checking filter, that I posted on Oct 8th, at 10:20am Monday and downloaded the CSV file into Excel. I set up all 20 buys to be based on $250 for his standard portfolio of $5K.

In an ideal world if one had just watched those 20 stocks from 9:30 to 10am, after buying them all at the Open and subsequently, selling the ones that went upward from the Open price at their highest achieved price and selling the other ones that only went down, at 10 am, the total $ gained would have been .$123 which is about a 2.5% overall gain.

17 of the 20 had highs greater than the Open in that first 30 minutes of trading,

Later I'll post the more realistic achievable gains by using 2% thru 5% profit stops during the first 30 minutes and also some end of day gain stats for Monday.

Ed S.

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styliten
159 posts
msg #157853
Ignore styliten
modified
10/12/2021 12:12:10 PM

@ nibor100

Seems like BYND is a safer bet (as of 10/12/2021):

BYND-2021-1012

Since you are doing paper trading, might as well add OKTA & ZIM:

OKTA-2021-1012


ZIM-2021-1012


The trading frame for these 3 tickers will be the next 10 to 15 trading days, i.e., getting out on the day it shoots up (by more than 6% intraday) OR heading South by more than 4%.

Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157854
Ignore Cheese
10/12/2021 12:25:18 PM

https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/Filter-Exchange/TRO-S-CROCK-POT-2-0/115856/150
nibor100 10/12/2021 11:15:58 AM
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Thank you, Ed S

So far, I am only paper trading crock pot as I learn posts from you and Redversa.
Your tracking tool is a very helpful learning tool for me with Redversa's filters.

My paper trades and stock picking skills using crock pots as filters were not great
mainly because some of the names had an inherent propensity to decline.

But crock pots seem pretty good when used as stat reports to help me with stock picks
at large, like blue chips BAC,JPM,WFC for quick swing trades.

Thanks again for your help and your thoughts in this thread.


nibor100
917 posts
msg #157859
Ignore nibor100
10/12/2021 3:18:00 PM

@styliten,

I'm not following why you are presenting me with those 3 stocks: as they don't appear in the list of results for Tro Crock Pot 2.0 when run last weekend, and this thread is for exploring that particular TRO filter.

Thanks,
Ed S.



nibor100
917 posts
msg #157876
Ignore nibor100
10/14/2021 12:40:03 PM

The rest of Monday morning's first 30 minutes of paper trading stats:

9 stocks hit the 2% stop by 10am, with selling all other positions at that time results in a gain of $19.32.

6 stocks hit the 4% stop by 10am, with selling all other positions at that time results in a gain of $43.84.

4 stocks hit the 5% stop by 10am, with selling all other positions at that time results in a gain of $53.70.

By end of day Monday:

14 stocks hit the 2% stop, with selling all other positions at that time results in a loss of -.$17.44.

I now more clearly see why he holds onto the stocks that don't hit his 2% stop by the end of the week,in order to let them have a chance to return higher.

Of course, by today at noon, 1 more stock had hit the 2 % stop, leaving 5 stocks that had not and probably will not by tomorrow evening.

Ed S.






Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157877
Ignore Cheese
10/14/2021 1:09:13 PM

https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/Filter-Exchange/TRO-S-CROCK-POT-2-0/115856/150
nibor100 10/14/2021 12:40:03 PM
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Ed S,
THANK YOU for your live paper test results.
Your paper test results encapsulate very well my dilemma with the conflicting ideas
in many crock pot threads and posts.
I feel lucky that I've been making money so far.
Going forward, I will likely stick to a few good crock pot suggestions and risk warnings
that have worked for me.




shillllihs
5,716 posts
msg #157878
Ignore shillllihs
10/14/2021 2:49:13 PM

This thread is groundbreaking. There’s no other that comes close!!

Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157881
Ignore Cheese
10/14/2021 11:42:39 PM

https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/Filter-Exchange/TRO-S-CROCK-POT-2-0/115856/140
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To:
TheRumpledOne, redversa721, nibor100, VenturaTrader, SAFeTRADE, snappyfrog, ron22, Mactheriverrat,
xarlor, and many smart people who posted tips and warnings about crock pot over the years

My heartfelt thanks.

TRO's original crock pot thread, ideas and advice are good. If I understand TRO correctly,
I just aim for 1% a week or about 0.2% a day. I exit when 1% gain is reached, or at the end
of the week whether gain or loss.

TRO repeatedly told people: Just aim for 1%. Don't get greedy.

I also get the synergy for crock pot by reading TRO's related threads on stats reports, MTC, RFR.

TRO's original crock pot was distorted by some well-meaning people who came after him.
These overreached crock pot systems as knock-offs. A knock-off "TRO's crock pot"
is NOT a "TRO's crock pot", any more than a knock-off Rolex can be called a Rolex.

It's how we trade. It's the users, not the systems.

There is no holy grail system, and that includes some of the TQQQ SQQQ systems on C2.
See the gain and loss transactions for TQQQ SQQQ systems and other systems posted
on C2 for yourself.

shillllihs
5,716 posts
msg #157882
Ignore shillllihs
modified
10/15/2021 12:18:24 AM

Maybe you’re old and senile or just a butt hurt liar.
Today’s gain Collective2
TQQQSQQQ +$7,492
+5.4%
+$97,28
+194.6%


Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157883
Ignore Cheese
10/15/2021 12:49:01 AM

Any trading systems can have fluctuations, gains and losses.

Examples:

Gain Loss transactions posted by Collective2
https://www.collective2.com/system124727146

Assets Under Management (AUM) and Ranks posted by Collective2
https://collective2.com/datastudies/strategyAUM




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