karennma
8,057 posts
msg #132535
- Ignore karennma |
11/15/2016 10:53:33 AM
So, how can the VIX and TVIX both be down at the same time?
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pthomas215
1,251 posts
msg #132536
- Ignore pthomas215 |
11/15/2016 11:03:32 AM
cause their correlation is high karen.
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pthomas215
1,251 posts
msg #132537
- Ignore pthomas215 |
11/15/2016 11:04:55 AM
Im going long when the VIX hits 13.60, which I suspect it might today.
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johnpaulca
12,036 posts
msg #132538
- Ignore johnpaulca |
11/15/2016 11:17:29 AM
Karen:
Wholesalers called “Authorized Participants” (APs) will at times intervene in the market if the trading value of TVIX diverges too much from the IV(intraday indicative) value. If TVIX is trading enough below the IV value they start buying large blocks of TVIX—which tends to drive the price up, and if it’s trading above they will short TVIX. The APs have an agreement with Credit Suisse that allows them to do these restorative maneuvers at a profit, so they are highly motivated to keep TVIX’s tracking in good shape.
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karennma
8,057 posts
msg #132539
- Ignore karennma |
11/15/2016 11:18:20 AM
pthomas215
387 posts
msg #132536
- Ignore pthomas215 11/15/2016 11:03:32 AM
cause their correlation is high karen.
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I thought they were the INVERSE of each other.
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karennma
8,057 posts
msg #132540
- Ignore karennma |
11/15/2016 11:21:18 AM
today.
johnpaulca
10,236 posts
msg #132538
- Ignore johnpaulca 11/15/2016 11:17:29 AM
Karen:
Wholesalers called “Authorized Participants” (APs) will at times intervene in the market if the trading value of TVIX diverges too much from the IV(intraday indicative) value.
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Okay. U just said the "I" word ... "intervene".
The rotation is over now.
I'm going back to techs.
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johnpaulca
12,036 posts
msg #132541
- Ignore johnpaulca |
11/15/2016 11:25:59 AM
LABU....starting to look toppy, still have a fews days of meandering before turning down, then back to LABD( buyers already taking up position, but still too early for me.)
went out at $47.60(secondary resis, primary $55.93)
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johnpaulca
12,036 posts
msg #132543
- Ignore johnpaulca |
11/15/2016 11:39:53 AM
johnpaulca
10,237 posts
msg #132516 11/14/2016 4:50:27 PM
/CL.....intraday buy trigger at about $43...went long at support($16.17) with UWTI
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Still holding....will look to sell when USD/CAD hits 1.3421
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pthomas215
1,251 posts
msg #132546
- Ignore pthomas215 |
11/15/2016 12:21:00 PM
Karen, TVIX, XIV, VIX are all tied to the S&P. TVIX has about an 81% correlation with the VIX. UVXY and VXX move the same direction of the VIX. XIV moves with the market mostly and hence opposite of the VIX. That said, some smart ppl on here have successfully analyzed volume to know to know where you might get the best bang for your buck...i.e. just cause the market is going up doesnt mean long on XIV and can mean a good trade shorting TVIX.
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karennma
8,057 posts
msg #132551
- Ignore karennma |
11/15/2016 3:09:49 PM
TVIX, XIV, VIX, Trix, Kix, Tix, Stix, whatever!
Scru all that baloney.
AMZN had a $26 breakout, so did GOOG.
U know why?
JAMIE DIMON GONNA TREASURY SEC'Y!
If not him, someonelse from WALL STREET.
We've got EIGHT more years of this!
DOW 50,0000!
$$$$$$$$$$$
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