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novacane32000
331 posts
msg #157030
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modified
6/18/2021 8:02:31 AM

Just seeing now that this thread is getting some traction

@Cheese-- I tried a few combinations on MACD slow/fast line crossovers and the results were so bad I stopped searching for a profitable combination. If anyone has a specific combo I can try to backtest it.

I did try several combos of the MACD crossing the zero line and (12,26,9) had the best results.

I use SPY as my benchmark for backtesting with the thinking that if it doesn’t work for SPY it won’t work for most equities .

Here are the other MACD combos I used crossing above the zero line and then exiting on a cross below the signal line.

(6,13,4)
(10,20,6)
(15,30,12)

Again, none worked better than (12,26,9) and it also worked well for most stocks in the SP500.

A few things I did find that I am now adding to all my backtest which reduces the max drawdown without too much sacrifice to net profit :
1) Take profit at 10%
2) Only take trades when price is above 150 MA
3) Instead of using a stop loss use the same signal you entered with to exit. So if for example you use a cross above RSI 2 ( ) to enter then use a cross below RSI 2 ( ) to exit.

@Redversa --Thanks for sharing your results. Do you manually trade your signals or do you have an automated system?

Also, does Marketinout allow you to optimize your backtest? I cannot do that on Trendspider. I have to enter every iteration manually.


Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157031
Ignore Cheese
6/18/2021 10:13:23 AM

https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/General-Discussion/backtesting-ideas/156926/20
novacane32000 modified 6/18/2021 8:02:31 AM

MACD crossing the zero line ...none worked better than (12,26,9)... worked well for SPY, most stocks in the SP500.

A few things reduces the max drawdown without too much sacrifice to net profit :
1) Take profit at 10%
2) Only take trades when price is above 150 MA
3) Instead of using a stop loss use the same signal you entered with to exit.
So if for example you use a cross above RSI 2 ( ) to enter then use a cross below RSI 2 ( ) to exit.
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@novacane32000

THANK YOU for your advice and backtest results !

Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157032
Ignore Cheese
6/18/2021 10:42:33 AM

@novacane32000, @Redversa @nibor100 and @graftonian

You four are all experts at backtesting.

Recently, karennma has found a TradingView author named QualQuantTrade (Sandy)
who seems to be quite good in finding stocks showing signs of re-accumulation.

Re-accumulation and rotation can be profitable.

Have you done any works on Re-accumulation and/or rotation? Any thoughts ?

Thank you.

novacane32000
331 posts
msg #157036
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6/18/2021 2:06:02 PM

I have been searching for a sector rotation strategy for (SPY,XLE,XLB,XLV,XLY,XLK,XLU,XLF,XLP,XLI).

Every time I think I have something that works,it ends up that holding SPY worked better.

Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157039
Ignore Cheese
6/18/2021 5:53:05 PM

novacane32000 6/18/2021 2:06:02 PM
I have been searching for a sector rotation strategy for (SPY,XLE,XLB,XLV,XLY,XLK,XLU,XLF,XLP,XLI).
Every time I think I have something that works,it ends up that holding SPY worked better.
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Thank you, novacane32000
I also think your strategy is best.
You cartainly have Warren Buffett as a great champion in your corner.

redversa721
157 posts
msg #157044
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6/18/2021 11:54:35 PM

Novo
"
have been searching for a sector rotation strategy for (SPY,XLE,XLB,XLV,XLY,XLK,XLU,XLF,XLP,XLI).

Every time I think I have something that works,it ends up that holding SPY worked better.
"

How about using. a combination of CMF(21) and a momentum. That should show if money is reducing in a sector

Maybe something like this
Fetcher[
apply to symlist (SPY,XLE,XLB,XLV,XLY,XLK,XLU,XLF,XLP,XLI)
cmf(21) crossed below 0 within the last 5 days
cmf(21) < 0 last 4 days
5 day slope of Momentum(12) < 0
]



Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157045
Ignore Cheese
6/19/2021 2:21:07 AM

We may be talking about different kinds of rotation.

Rotation from a waning sector of the 11 sectors and into a rising sector may be difficult.

But rotation in and out of the same sector should be do-able.

Rotation in and out of a sector and into an inverse should be do-able.

Rotation in and out of a theme and into a negatively correlated theme should be do-able,
e.g. back to work & return to normal vs work-from-home.

An idea from glgene is MOO & UUP
Often, I focused too much on SPY & QQQ and forgot about the importance of UUP

My useless 2 cents

Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157046
Ignore Cheese
6/19/2021 2:34:21 AM

Other excellent examples from Kevin_in_GA and davesaint86 about yet different kinds of rotation, e.g.
spy,iwm,efa,agg
MDY,SPY,QQQ,EFA
etc

snappyfrog
653 posts
msg #157048
Ignore snappyfrog
6/19/2021 8:20:20 AM

Cheese, concerning MOO and UUP





Just using PVI, NVI and weekly and daily MACD

Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157049
Ignore Cheese
6/19/2021 12:53:20 PM

https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/General-Discussion/backtesting-ideas/156926/20
snappyfrog 6/19/2021 8:20:20 AM

Cheese, concerning MOO and UUP
Just using PVI, NVI and weekly and daily MACD
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THANK YOU, snappy !
Your stuff is top of the line and top of mind.
I'll have to remember to watch stuff like UUP,MOO,AGG,SHY,TLT,TBT,IEF more often
https://etfdb.com/etfs/bond/treasuries/

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