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msg #106758
Ignore johnpaulca
6/25/2012 9:06:52 AM

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msg #106920
Ignore TheRumpledOne
7/7/2012 11:57:29 AM

This is just part of the article:

Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system

Posted: Jun. 6, 2010 | 12:00 a.m.

Rahm Emanuel cynically said, "You never want a crisis to go to waste." It is now becoming clear that the crisis he was referring to is Barack Obama's presidency.

Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.Â

Barack Obama is my college classmate (Columbia University, class of '83). As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

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msg #106924
Ignore four
7/7/2012 4:36:04 PM

Dear Person Seeking a Job: Why I Can't Hire You

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msg #106934
Ignore Eman93
7/9/2012 1:24:53 AM

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msg #106938
Ignore TheRumpledOne
7/9/2012 9:32:28 AM


Charles Krauthammer

July 3, 2012 11:07:40 PM MST

To all my friends, particularly those conservatives who are despondent over the searing betrayal by Chief Justice John Roberts and the pending demise of our beloved country, I offer this perspective to convey some profound hope and evidence of the Almighty’s hand in the affairs of men in relation to the Supreme Court’s decision on Obamacare.

I initially thought we had cause for despondency when I only heard the results of the decision and not the reason or the make-up of the sides. I have now read a large portion of the decision and I believe that it was precisely the result that Scalia, Alito, Thomas, Roberts and even Kennedy wanted and not a defeat for conservatism or the rule of law. I believe the conservatives on the court have run circles around the liberals and demonstrated that the libs are patently unqualified to be on the Supreme Court. Let me explain.

First let me assure you that John Roberts is a conservative and he is not dumb, mentally unstable, diabolical, a turncoat, a Souter or even just trying to be too nice. He is a genius along with the members of the Court in the dissent. The more of the decision I read the more remarkable it became. It is not obvious and it requires a passable understanding of Constitutional law but if it is explained anyone can see the beauty of it.

The decision was going to be a 5-4 decision no matter what, so the allegation that the decision was a partisan political decision was going to be made by the losing side and their supporters. If the bill was struck down completely with Roberts on the other side there would have been a national and media backlash against conservatives and probably strong motivation for Obama supporters to come out and vote in November. With today’s decision that dynamic is reversed and there is a groundswell of support for Romney and Republicans, even for people who were formerly lukewarm toward Romney before today, additionally Romney raised more than 3 million dollars today.

Next, merely striking the law without the support of Democrats and libs would have left the fight over the commerce clause and the “necessary and proper “ clause and the federal government’s role in general festering and heading the wrong way as it has since 1942. As a result of the decision the libs are saying great things about Roberts; how wise, fair and reasonable he is. They would never have said that without this decision even after the Arizona immigration decision on Monday. In the future when Roberts rules conservatively it will be harder for the left and the media to complain about the Robert’s Court’s fairness. That’s why he as Chief Justice went to the other side for this decision not Scalia, Alito, Thomas or Kennedy, all of whom I believe would have been willing to do it.

Next let’s look at the decision itself. Thankfully Roberts got to write it as Chief Justice and it is a masterpiece. (As I write this the libs don’t even know what has happened they just think Roberts is great and that they won and we are all going to have free, unlimited healthcare services and we are all going to live happily ever after.) He first emphatically states that Obamacare is unconstitutional under the Commerce Clause saying you cannot make people buy stuff. Then he emphatically states that it is unconstitutional under the “necessary and proper” clause which only applies to “enumerated powers” in the US Constitution. Justices Ginsberg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan all went along with these statements. They never would have gone along with that sentiment if that was the basis for striking the law in total. This is huge because this means that the Court ruled 9-0 that Obamacare was unconstitutional under the Commerce clause which was Obama’s whole defense of the bill. They also ruled 9-0 on the “necessary and proper” clause. Even better both of these rulings were unnecessary to the decision so it is gravy that we got the libs to concede this and it will make it easier to pare away at both theories in the future, which we must do. Well done.

Roberts, through very tortured reasoning, goes on to find that the taxing law provides the Constitutionality for the law. Virtually everyone agrees that the Federal government has the power to do this as it does with the mortgage deduction for federal income taxes. This too is huge because Obama assiduously avoided using the term “tax” and now he has to admit this law is a tax and it is on everyone even the poor. That will hurt him hugely in the polls and will help Romney. More importantly though is the fact that this makes this a budgetary issue that can be voted on in the Senate by a mere majority instead of 60 votes needed to stop a filibuster. That means that if the Republicans can gain a majority in the Senate, it can vote to repeal Obamacare in total.

Finally the Court voted 7-2 to strike down the punitive rules that take away money from states that do not expand Medicare as required in Obamacare. This too is huge because we got Kagan and Breyer to join this decision and it can easily be applied to many other cases of extortion the Federal government uses to force states to do things they don’t want to. This is also amazing because Obamacare has no severability clause so by striking the Medicaid mandate portion as unconstitutional the whole bill should have been struck. If that happened none of these other benefits would have been accomplished. I haven’t read far enough to know how he did it but I am sure it is brilliant.

So to recap the Roberts court through a brilliant tactical maneuver has: strengthened the limitations of the commerce clause and the necessary and proper clause by a unanimous decision, made Obama raise taxes on the poor and middle classes, converted Obamacare into a tax program repealable with 51 votes in the Senate, enhanced Romney’s and Republican’s fundraising and likelihood of being elected in November, weakened federal extortion and got the left to love Roberts and sing his praises all without anyone even noticing. Even Obama is now espousing the rule of law just 2 weeks after violating it with his deportation executive order.

That is why I have decided this was a genius decision and that I did in fact get a great birthday present today not to mention U. S. Attorney General Eric Holder being held in contempt. What a day.

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msg #106939
Ignore TheRumpledOne
7/9/2012 9:36:21 AM


Subject: His full Name is:

Written by a journalist for the Florida Times Union Newspaper.

Sandy Strickland


The Florida Times-Union


His full Name is: Willard Mitt Romney

He was Born: March 12, 1947 and is 65 years old.

His Father: George W. Romney, former Governor of

the State of Michigan

He was raised in Bloomfield Hills , Michigan

He is Married to Ann Romney since 1969;

they five children.


B.A. from Brigham Young University,

J.D. and M.B.A. from Harvard University


Mormon - The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints

Working Background:

After high school, he spent 30 months in France as a Mormon


After going to both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law

School simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar exam, but

never worked as an attorney.

In 1984, he co-founded Bain Capital a private equity investment

firm, one of the largest such firms in the United States .

In 1994, he ran for Senator of Massachusetts

and lost to Ted Kennedy.

He was President and CEO of the 2002 Winter Olympic Games.

In 2002, he was elected Governor of the State of Massachusetts

where he eliminated a 1.5 billion deficit.

Some Interesting Facts about Romney:

Bain Capital, starting with one small office supply store in

Massachusetts, turned it into Staples; now over 2,000 stores

employing 90,000 people.

Bain Capital also worked to perform the same kinds of business

miracles again and again, with companies like Domino's, Sealy,

Brookstone, Weather Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group,

Dollarama, Home Depot Supply, and many others.

He was an unpaid volunteer campaign worker for his dad's

gubernatorial campaign 1 year.

He was an unpaid intern in his dad's governor's office for eight


He was an unpaid bishop and stake president of his church for

ten years.

He was an unpaid President of the Salt Lake Olympic Committee

for three years.

He took no salary and was the unpaid Governor of Massachusetts

for four years.

He gave his entire inheritance from his father to charity.

Mitt Romney is one of the wealthiest self-made men in our

country but has given more back to its citizens in terms of money,

service and time than most men.

And in 2011 Mitt Romney gave over $4 million to charity, almost

19% of his income....

Just for comparison purposes, Obama gave 1%


Joe Biden gave $300 or .0013%.

Mitt Romney is Trustworthy:

He will show us his birth certificate

He will show us his high school and college transcripts.

He will show us his social security card.

He will show us his law degree.

He will show us his draft notice.

He will show us his medical records.

He will show us his income tax records.

He will show us he has nothing to hide.

Mitt Romney's background, experience and trustworthiness show

him to be a great leader and an excellent citizen for President of the

United States.

You may think that Romney may not be the best representative the

Republicans could have selected. At least I know what religion he is,

and that he won't desecrate the flag, bow down to foreign powers, or

practice fiscal irresponsibility. I know he has the ability to turn this

financial debacle that the current regime has gotten us into.

We won't like all the things necessary to recover from this debt,

but someone with Romney's background can do it.

He never was a "Community Organizer", never took drugs or smoked

pot, never got drunk, did not associate with communists or terrorists,

nor did he attend a church whose pastor called for God to damn the U.S.

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msg #106950
Ignore TheRumpledOne
7/10/2012 12:36:16 AM



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msg #106955
Ignore TheRumpledOne
7/10/2012 12:04:38 PM


Quite a difference between candidates.

A lot is being said in the media about Mitt Romney not being "likable" or that he doesn't "relate" well to people. We struggled to understand why...
he is after all drop dead handsome, has a beautiful wife... isn't that enough to ensure popularity for most Americans? So after much research, we have come up with a Top Ten list to explain this unlikability.

Top Ten Reasons To Dislike Mitt Romney

1. Successful, self-made businessman. (Dad didn't give him a hand-out...
he and Ann had to make it on their own)

2. Been married to ONE woman his entire life, and has been FAITHFUL to her.

3. No scandals or skeletons in his closet. (How boring is that?)

4. Can't speak in a fake southern black preacher voice when necessary.

5. Knows the real meaning of giving service to his fellow man and quietly shows it in his everyday life.

6. Has pots of money (made it all himself) and since nobody else in this country has any desire to have pots of money... we don't like him!!!

7. Has a family of great boys... none of them are in drug rehab.

8. Doesn't smoke (even in secret), drink alcohol, or do drugs (not even in college, where other people were NOT inhaling)

9. Represents an America of "yesterday", where people believed in God, went to Church, didn't screw around, worked hard, and became a SUCCESS!
(We can't relate to such an anachronism!)

10. Oh yes... he's a MORMON. The religion that teaches its members to be clean-living, patriotic, fiscally conservative, charitable, self-reliant, honest, upright and MORAL!

And one more point... pundits say because of his wealth, he can't relate to ordinary Americans. I guess that's because he made that money ALL BY HIMSELF... as opposed to marrying it (as in John Kerry) or inheriting it from Dad (as in Jack, Robert & Ted Kennedy.) We didn't understand that actually working at a job and earning your own money made you unrelatable to Americans.


In God We Trust

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msg #106956
Ignore dangreene
7/10/2012 12:15:03 PM

Deleted - - - a/c need to know who you are dealing with

Get to know your candidate.

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msg #106966
Ignore Eman93
7/10/2012 10:18:27 PM

The 2 parties only give the appearance of being different..on things that really matter they all vote the same.

Their only purpose is to divided us and keep the fat cats in charge. Bush ran the same platform as Romney and what did we get.. Obama ran on cutting spending and creating jobs... what did we get?

So you see brother it matters not who wins, it will be more of the same.. tax spend, bail out banks, never ending war, more rights taken away in the name of security... Well you might have Mit gut more of Nixons EPA and roll us back to the 50s again...

The real issue is how we are all slaves to the finical system and the money being dumped into these elections that keep it all running. They wouldnt even let Ralph Nader into the debates... Would love to see a Paul Nader ticket.

Would love to see Paul some how steal the nomination... its some how mathematically possible.

Like our friend said its a Big Club and you ant in it...

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