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xarlor
562 posts
msg #153246
Ignore xarlor
7/22/2020 10:36:17 AM

My contribution to the tournament. Just add more tickers! In addition to the bouts witnessed thus far, I submit the rest of FAANG.

Fetcher[
symlist(NFLX,CSCO,CAT,NVDA,AMZN,AAPL,GOOG,FB)
draw WMA(150)

Set{Guppy,count(ema(15) crossed above ema(30),1)}
Guppy > -1

set{Weinstein,count(close crossed above wma(150),1)}
Weinstein > -1

set{GuppyLast,days(ema(15) crossed above ema(30),100)}
set{WeinsteinLast,days(close crossed above wma(150),100)}

add column separator
add column GuppyLast {Days since Guppy crossover}
add column WeinsteinLast {Days since Weinstein crossover}

set{x1,max(guppylast,weinsteinlast)}

set{GuppyWinner,count(GuppyLast equals x1,1)}
set{WeinsteinWinner,count(WeinsteinLast equals x1,1)}
add column separator
add column GuppyWinner {Guppy Wins?}
add column WeinsteinWinner {Weinstein Wins?}

chart-time is 100 days

draw ema(3)
draw ema(4)
draw ema(5)
draw ema(6)
draw ema(7)
draw ema(8)
draw ema(9)
draw ema(10)
draw ema(11)
draw ema(12)
draw ema(13)
draw ema(14)
draw ema(15)


draw ema(30)
draw ema(31)
draw ema(32)
draw ema(33)
draw ema(34)
draw ema(35)
draw ema(36)
draw ema(37)
draw ema(38)
draw ema(39)
draw ema(40)
draw ema(41)
draw ema(42)
draw ema(43)
draw ema(44)
draw ema(45)
draw ema(46)
draw ema(47)
draw ema(48)
draw ema(49)
draw ema(50)

Draw ema(60)

sort column 9 descending
]



nibor100
1,010 posts
msg #153292
Ignore nibor100
7/26/2020 9:07:21 AM

@Mactheriverrat,

I agree using a line to display price on the Guppy charts removes some clutter, fortunately for those of us who use VectorVest we can actually turn off the Price display entirely, making it easy to zoom in and see the actual Guppy crossover points.

I notice that SF has a DOT feature for the price display that also seems to work fairly well in removing clutter and not adding an additional line to the charts

Thanks,
Ed S.

nibor100
1,010 posts
msg #153293
Ignore nibor100
7/26/2020 9:08:52 AM

@xarlor,

Your making it too easy for everyone....

Thanks,
Ed S.

Mactheriverrat
3,136 posts
msg #153296
Ignore Mactheriverrat
7/26/2020 1:33:20 PM

@Xarlor

Guppy is the interaction of two groups of averages where as Weinstein is the price crossing one way or another of the wma(150)

IMHO -
Both are good.


Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #153436
Ignore Cheese
8/5/2020 11:49:22 PM

It would be nice if xarlor or anyone could suggest a good SELL or SCALING OUT signal
Thanks


Fetcher[
/* https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/Stock-Picks/SHOWDOWN-Who-Lags-Who-Guppy-vs-Weinstein-ROUND-1/153196/10 */
/* xarlor 7/22/2020 10:36:17 AM */


symlist(GLD,SLV)

CHART-TIME 24 MONTHS */

draw WMA(150)

Set{Guppy,count(ema(15) crossed above ema(30),1)}
Guppy > -1

set{Weinstein,count(close crossed above wma(150),1)}
Weinstein > -1

set{GuppyLast,days(ema(15) crossed above ema(30),100)}
set{WeinsteinLast,days(close crossed above wma(150),100)}

add column separator
add column GuppyLast {Days since Guppy crossover}
add column WeinsteinLast {Days since Weinstein crossover}

set{x1,max(guppylast,weinsteinlast)}

set{GuppyWinner,count(GuppyLast equals x1,1)}
set{WeinsteinWinner,count(WeinsteinLast equals x1,1)}
add column separator
add column GuppyWinner {Guppy Wins?}
add column WeinsteinWinner {Weinstein Wins?}

chart-time is 100 days

draw ema(3)
draw ema(4)
draw ema(5)
draw ema(6)
draw ema(7)
draw ema(8)
draw ema(9)
draw ema(10)
draw ema(11)
draw ema(12)
draw ema(13)
draw ema(14)
draw ema(15)


draw ema(30)
draw ema(31)
draw ema(32)
draw ema(33)
draw ema(34)
draw ema(35)
draw ema(36)
draw ema(37)
draw ema(38)
draw ema(39)
draw ema(40)
draw ema(41)
draw ema(42)
draw ema(43)
draw ema(44)
draw ema(45)
draw ema(46)
draw ema(47)
draw ema(48)
draw ema(49)
draw ema(50)

Draw ema(60)

sort column 9 descending
]



Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #153437
Ignore Cheese
8/5/2020 11:55:05 PM

This is what I came up with but I think someone else might have better ideas
Thanks

Fetcher[
/* https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/Stock-Picks/SHOWDOWN-Who-Lags-Who-Guppy-vs-Weinstein-ROUND-1/153196/10 */
/* xarlor 7/22/2020 10:36:17 AM */


symlist(GLD,SLV)

CHART-TIME 24 MONTHS */

draw WMA(150)

Set{Guppy,count(ema(15) crossed above ema(30),1)}
Guppy > -1

set{Weinstein,count(close crossed above wma(150),1)}
Weinstein > -1

set{GuppyLast,days(ema(15) crossed above ema(30),100)}
set{WeinsteinLast,days(close crossed above wma(150),100)}

add column separator
add column GuppyLast {Days since Guppy crossover}
add column WeinsteinLast {Days since Weinstein crossover}

set{x1,max(guppylast,weinsteinlast)}

set{GuppyWinner,count(GuppyLast equals x1,1)}
set{WeinsteinWinner,count(WeinsteinLast equals x1,1)}
add column separator
add column GuppyWinner {Guppy Wins?}
add column WeinsteinWinner {Weinstein Wins?}

chart-time is 100 days

draw ema(3)
draw ema(4)
draw ema(5)
draw ema(6)
draw ema(7)
draw ema(8)
draw ema(9)
draw ema(10)
draw ema(11)
draw ema(12)
draw ema(13)
draw ema(14)
draw ema(15)


draw ema(30)
draw ema(31)
draw ema(32)
draw ema(33)
draw ema(34)
draw ema(35)
draw ema(36)
draw ema(37)
draw ema(38)
draw ema(39)
draw ema(40)
draw ema(41)
draw ema(42)
draw ema(43)
draw ema(44)
draw ema(45)
draw ema(46)
draw ema(47)
draw ema(48)
draw ema(49)
draw ema(50)

Draw ema(60)

sort column 9 descending


/* ******************************************************** SELL */

Set{Guppy_sell,count(ema(15) crossed below ema(30),1)}
Guppy_sell > -1

set{Weinstein_sell,count(close crossed below wma(150),1)}
Weinstein_sell > -1

ADD COLUMN Guppy_sell
ADD COLUMN Weinstein_sell
DRAW Guppy_sell
DRAW Weinstein_sell
]



nibor100
1,010 posts
msg #153445
Ignore nibor100
8/6/2020 11:32:55 AM

@Cheese,

For the Guppy approach I'd follow Guppy's recommendations from his book and follow the Weinstein book for the WMA150, Otherwise a close below the 8 period EMA is usually not a bad place to get out of a stock as it generally triggers long before price moves the 15, 30 or 150 moving averages enough.

I know a guy who swears by the 4 period crossing the 34 period both upward and downward.

For what its worth,
Ed S.

Mactheriverrat
3,136 posts
msg #153447
Ignore Mactheriverrat
8/6/2020 3:48:21 PM

As for Guppy MMA's , Daryl Guppy talks about the action between the 2 sets of groups . Its just depends when one wants to be holding.

Short term I use a EMA 3 cross above or below EMA 12 as a trigger ( also a EMA 5 cross above or below EMA 13 has been suggested ). Now the longer term averages can still be expanding but the traders group may be selling off. If Investors is still trending upward and a positive EMA 3 cross above EMA 12 or the EMA 5 / 13 cross happens. Then there is a good chance price is going higher.

Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #153448
Ignore Cheese
8/6/2020 5:01:35 PM

Thank you very much, Ed S nibor100 and Mactheriverrat !

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