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General Discussion · A Challenge ... the actual selections ...the best you can offer
msg #27653
8/2/2003 2:36:14 PM

I think the SF challenge is a great idea but I don't think it's proper to use the SF forum to posts the picks. Lets keep the SF Forum within the parameters it has designated. Also, I would not like to see SF get into any trouble because of the "Appearance of making Buy / Sell Recommendation". Some foolish SEC regulator who gets a complaint from someone who happens to lose because they didn't do their own home work or understand why the pick was made could create a problem for us all.

SF is much to valuable a resource to get embroiled in sum possible stupid legal battle. I say knowing the litigious nature of society as it is today, let's use some common sense to buffer SF from morons! Better to be Safe than Sorry!

I believe we should set up a SF Challenge Yahoo group like was done for the Muddy group. I'm willing to do the work necessary to set it up for us and open it to anyone that wants to join. One rule I'd propose for posting is that the filter or parameters used to make the selection(s) should always be included with a pick. At the very least with the first post of a pick using some criteria. In this way we will all learn and benefit from shared knowledge and experience.

What do you folk think?

General Discussion · Add Value1, Value2, etc. feature!
msg #26493
5/12/2003 11:25:27 PM

I'd like to see StockFetcher add the ability for us to do a bit more complex screening based on the analysis of 2 different math formulas.

Right now we can compare 2 simple formulas.

For example:
Fetcher[Close above open and High minus Close below Open minus Low]

But if I want to determine that the Open minus Low is above "3 times the High minus Close" it can't presently be done.

My suggested solution is to allow the assignment of VALUE Statements in the form:

Value1(High minus Close)
Value2(Open minus Low)

This would lead to the ability to write:

Fetcher[Value1(High minus Close) and Value2(Open minus Low)
and Close above open
and Value2 above 3 multiplied by Value1

Value Statements could also be indicators. That would allow a math comparison that we are unable to do now.

For example:

Value1(MA(20) minus MA(50))
and ATR(20) multiplied by 5 above Value1 plus 3

By assigning Value Statements BEFORE any other conditions the value could be used in the screen.

Even if it only simplifies writing the screen I think it would benefit users and reduce processing demands on the server.

If others see the Value (sorry about the pun), please let the great folks at Fetcher know.

Thanks for the consideration,


General Discussion · Add Value1, Value2, etc. feature!
msg #26495
5/13/2003 12:45:33 AM

Here's another reason to have Value statements:

Value1(some condition)

Price crossed above Highest(Value1,30)


Value1(some condition)

Price crossed below Lowest(Value1,30)

Of course we'd need the "ACTION Statements" HIGHEST and LOWEST to also become available.

Are Highest and Lowest something subscribers would find benefitial?

Could they be added to the wish list???

Filter Exchange · bollinger bands
msg #26354
5/1/2003 9:23:47 PM

I've been following the BB system posts and am trying to pull together the rules and exceptions. Is this the correct initial filter?


Results as of mkt close Thursday May 1, 2003

Symbol Last %Chg Vol
ROXI 4.84 -7.28 310050
PCS 3.47 -0.86 7666700
DTHK 2.26 -7.76 218900
BNBN 1.43 -10.01 554094
IONA 1.35 -0.74 158150

I'll take it in steps so I don't get to far off track.

Tks Bert.

Filter Exchange · bollinger bands
msg #26452
5/9/2003 12:41:08 AM

Hi Muddy,

Did you get the e-mail re: your method?


Filter Exchange · bollinger bands
msg #26559
5/20/2003 9:33:59 AM

With Muddy's (Wallman) kind approval and authorization, and the OK from the SF staff, I'm happy to announce that the "Wallman BB method" is now available to SF subscribers in a clean and easy to read word doc that I summarized and edited from the many posts to this forum. This is my way to say thank you and pass on the help given to me.

I'd like to thank Mr. Wallman for his unselfish kindness by sharing and helping me and others with the method. Also, a lot of credit has to be given to the folks at SF who make it possible.

SF subscribers that would like a copy, please contact me directly rather than tying up the forum with requests. Send me an e-mail: blbant (at) hotmail (dot) com, and I'll forward a copy to you. (I'm sure you can figure out the address written to avoid SPAM BOTS that might be lurking.)

Good Trading,


Announcements · Chart Color Customization ** Beta **
msg #26593
5/24/2003 1:37:38 AM

The custom chart colors option is great! I think the best way to have custom color applied would be to allow us to go to a page, like you have now, create our custom color code and then save the code as a "CHAIN" item / filter. We could then apply / add the "Color Chain" to any individual filter and we could make a different "Color Chain" for different filters if desired. I hope this approach doesn't open a pandoras box!

There is one other Custom Color feature you should add to make the charts even more useful. Please add a "Condition" / Filter specific over-ride! This would allow users to immediately see where / when "on the price chart" the filter was PREVIOUSLY applicable in a manner similar to the green triangles on the historical charts. This would be an easy and quick way to identify the EXACT BAR / Candle where / when the "Condition" / Filter occurred.

For example: If I specified the regular / normal "Candle Gain Border" as #009900 and the "Candle Loss Border" as #c00e0e then I could specify a "Condition" / Filter specific over-ride for "Candle Gain Border" as #000000 and the "Candle Loss Border" as #000000. This would make the applicable bar / candle highly visible and provide a good past reference point on the chart from which to make an analysis. You might even want to offer the "OVER-RIDE" feature on the Volume Bars.

I think adding the "Over-Ride" feature would also give SF Charts a unique advantage over other online charting alternatives and set a new standard for others to follow.

Thanks for your consideration.


General Discussion · Compound Indicators ???
msg #26494
5/12/2003 11:51:11 PM

I'd like to see us be able to use the 20 day simple moving average of the HIGHS or Lows or pivot points or other such things.

It would open up greater screening and chart drawing potential if indicators of indicators were possible but at least it would be nice to be able to use something other than just the CLOSE.

Isn't is possible to do EMA(20,High) or LinReg(50,1.0,1,Low) ????

It's another thing for the StockFetcher wish list.

SF is a great service that rivals most others. Things like this would easily put it over the top!

Keep up the great work and thanks for the consideration,


General Discussion · eSignal Formula Script (EFS) / Trade Station Easy Language (ELA)
msg #29743
11/8/2003 2:12:15 AM

SF's plain language approach to developing filters is superior to most and more likely beats ALL others. The only limit is that it is restricted to EOD analysis. That is not a bad thing because the cost of a live streaming data service would probably put SF over budget for a lot of traders now using it.

Since any really good filter / trading system if probably fractal in nature (meaning it works well in different time frames from minutes to months) it sems to me that it might be helpful if and additional forum category were added where some knowledgable folks could help with EFS / ELS scripts.

I know it would help me. Any other thoughts??? Or if you'd like to contact me directly use blbant at hotmail dot com.

Filter Exchange · Excellent Breakout Warning Filter!
msg #32303
6/9/2004 12:16:26 AM

Here's a filter that usually finds an equity in or at the end of consolidation, just before it breaks out. Use your own methods to determine which direction it will go.

I've found a close above / below the breakout bar with a buy / sell at the CWMA(PP,13) and a confirming CWMA(PP,30) works very well.

Most any method can be applied once you get a candidate to put on your watch list from this filter.

I call it "RAW BREAKOUT"

Fetcher[high above CWMA(PP,60,1) and low below CWMA(PP,60,1)
and high above CWMA(PP,30,1) and Low below CWMA(PP,30,1)
and high above CWMA(PP,20,1) and Low below CWMA(PP,20,1)
and high above CWMA(PP,12,1) and Low below CWMA(PP,12,1)
and high above CWMA(PP,6,1) and Low below CWMA(PP,6,1)
and high above CWMA(PP,4,1) and Low below CWMA(PP,4,1)
and Not OTCBB and volume above 250,000
and average volume(20) above 250,000

Technically, it should be "high above OR equal" and "low below OR equal" but SF does have its limitations. Perhaps one of you more skilled than I can update it so the "OR" condition is applied. I recall seeing something about that a while back but it's beyond me.

Obviously, you can change some parameters and filter to include OTCBB, only Optionables, price range, volume, etc.

Do a "WEEKLY" version and you will see some very significant results!

Enjoy, and good trading.


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