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snappyfrog
521 posts
msg #157461
Ignore snappyfrog
modified
8/28/2021 7:52:57 PM

I have always found my best percentage movers in the $5 - $20 range. That is the range I play. Here are a few ways I trade this and things I have found to be true:

1. If a person sets a 2% limit and gets out, it can be tough to turn a profit just by picking the top 5. To make my odds better, I spread my money out over 10 stocks.

2. I don't set a 2% sell limit. I am able to watch the stocks more closely during the day and will let winners run.

3. I compare my picks to other scans and try to pick those that have the best potential to make a move upwards.

4. If one or more stocks gap down at open, one can wait until later in the day or up to Wed before entering the trade. If a stock is down 3% and then reverses, the gains back to the 2% weekly win are greater.

5. You will see the same stocks at the top each week. This will allow you to play them over and over each week. When you become familiar with a specific stock, you see patterns each week that give you great clues on exits and when to hold longer.

6. If you get bored trading the 2% list, then select 1% sorting next week and 5% sorting the following week. Nothing wrong with that.

I know he was strict about following the rules, but rules are meant to be bent sometimes.

Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157462
Ignore Cheese
8/28/2021 8:59:24 PM

https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/Filter-Exchange/TRO-CROCK-POT-SLOW-COOKERS-FOR-SWING-TRADERS/67200/50

snappyfrog modified 8/28/2021 7:52:57 PM

I have always found my best percentage movers in the $5 - $20 range. That is the range I play. Here are a few ways I trade this and things I have found to be true:

1. If a person sets a 2% limit and gets out, it can be tough to turn a profit just by picking the top 5. To make my odds better, I spread my money out over 10 stocks.
2. I don't set a 2% sell limit. I am able to watch the stocks more closely during the day and will let winners run.
3. I compare my picks to other scans and try to pick those that have the best potential to make a move upwards.
4. If one or more stocks gap down at open, one can wait until later in the day or up to Wed before entering the trade. If a stock is down 3% and then reverses, the gains back to the 2% weekly win are greater.
5. You will see the same stocks at the top each week. This will allow you to play them over and over each week. When you become familiar with a specific stock, you see patterns each week that give you great clues on exits and when to hold longer.
6. If you get bored trading the 2% list, then select 1% sorting next week and 5% sorting the following week. Nothing wrong with that.

I know he was strict about following the rules, but rules are meant to be bent sometimes.
================================================================================

@snappyfrog

THANK YOU very much for sharing your tips and experience.

redversa721
154 posts
msg #157463
Ignore redversa721
8/29/2021 3:08:43 AM

two more quick points from my analysis.

1. TRO sort was by col 7, which is max hits of 2% over the last 52 weeks. What I noticed is that a col5 descending [Wkprofit Percent] gives a better chance of success. It may sound not possible, but the stocks which went up the most the past week actually goes up more this week as well [2%]

2. With regard to a 1% pick, on my analysis of 1 full year of weekly friday data, the stocks which do not hit 2% a week, do not typically cross 1%. So i feel like It's better to get that 2% rather than get the 1% gain and then tap out. Again my observation from 1 year of data, prev years before that may be different.

3. re-iterating, if you choose 5 stocks every monday, your account will be 0 in a few months, Choose more than 12, optimally more than 15

4. To pick runners, I would say use 90% exit at 2% gain and 10% , let it run. [or 95/5]. Just that it is a little bit more work to do at 9.30 when orders are filled.

Happy weekend.

SAFeTRADE
592 posts
msg #157464
Ignore SAFeTRADE
8/29/2021 9:48:59 AM

Made one(1) tweak. Why not go with the up trend short term? Can you find the tweak?

Fetcher[


set{hiop,high - open}
set{hioppct,hiop / open}
set{trigger,0.03} /*Trigger - Stock Up 3% from open*/
set{trigger1,1 + trigger}
set{triggervalue,trigger1 * open}
set{gain0.25%,trigger + 0.0025}
set{gain0.5%,trigger + 0.005}
set{gain1.0%,trigger + 0.01}
set{gain1.5%,trigger + 0.015}
set{gain2.0%,trigger + 0.02}
set{gain2.5%,trigger + 0.025}
set{gain3.0%,trigger + 0.03}
set{uptrigger,count(hioppct > trigger,100)}/*Count how many times stock achieves 3% above open*/
set{upgain0.25%,count(hioppct > gain0.25%,100)}/*Count how many times stock achieves 0.25% above trigger*/
set{upgain0.5%,count(hioppct > gain0.5%,100)}/*Count how many times stock achieves 0.5% above trigger*/
set{upgain1.0%,count(hioppct > gain1.0%,100)}/*Count how many times stock achieves 1.0% above trigger*/
set{upgain1.5%,count(hioppct > gain1.5%,100)}/*Count how many times stock achieves 1.5% above trigger*/
set{upgain2.0%,count(hioppct > gain2.0%,100)}/*Count how many times stock achieves 2.0% above trigger*/
set{upgain2.5%,count(hioppct > gain2.5%,100)}/*Count how many times stock achieves 2.5% above trigger*/
set{upgain3.0%,count(hioppct > gain3.0%,100)}/*Count how many times stock achieves 3.0% above trigger*/
set{5upgain1.0%,count(hioppct > gain1.0%,5)}/*Count how many times stock achieves 1.0% above trigger*/
set{up0.25,upgain0.25%}
set{up0.5,upgain0.5%}
set{up1.0,upgain1.0%}
set{5up1.0,5upgain1.0%}
set{up1.5,upgain1.5%}
set{up2.0,upgain2.0%}
set{up2.5,upgain2.5%}
set{up3.0,upgain3.0%}
set{sigup, count(Stochastic %K(5,3,3) crossed above Stochastic %d(5,3,3),1)}
add column open
add column uptrigger{trigger3%}
add column triggervalue
add column up0.25{up0.25%}
add column up0.5{up0.5%}
add column up1.0{up1%}
add column sigup
add column up1.5{up1.5%}
add column up2.0{up2%}
add column up2.5{up2.5%}
add column up3.0{up3.0%}
sort column 8 descending

average volume(30) above 500000
close above 10
draw Stochastic %K(5,3,3)
draw 5up1.0
draw sigup
uptrigger above 40


/* **************************** a start for ron22 to tweak further Aug 17, 2021 ************************** */

set{98%ofopen,0.98 * open}
set{2.0%belowopen,count(price < 98%ofopen,100)}/*Count how many times stock achieves 2.0% below open*/
add column 2.0%belowopen
draw 2.0%belowopen

/* **************************** add diff for ron22 to tweak further Aug 17, 2021 ************************** */

set{diff, up2.0 - 2.0%belowopen}
add column diff
]



Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157465
Ignore Cheese
8/29/2021 1:19:39 PM

https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/Filter-Exchange/TRO-S-CROCK-POT-2-0/115856/100
redversa721 8/29/2021 3:08:43 AM

two more quick points from my analysis.

1. TRO sort was by col 7, which is max hits of 2% over the last 52 weeks. What I noticed is that a col5 descending [Wkprofit Percent] gives a better chance of success. It may sound not possible, but the stocks which went up the most the past week actually goes up more this week as well [2%]

2. With regard to a 1% pick, on my analysis of 1 full year of weekly friday data, the stocks which do not hit 2% a week, do not typically cross 1%. So i feel like It's better to get that 2% rather than get the 1% gain and then tap out. Again my observation from 1 year of data, prev years before that may be different.

3. re-iterating, if you choose 5 stocks every monday, your account will be 0 in a few months, Choose more than 12, optimally more than 15

4. To pick runners, I would say use 90% exit at 2% gain and 10% , let it run. [or 95/5]. Just that it is a little bit more work to do at 9.30 when orders are filled.

Happy weekend.
==================================================================================

THANK YOU redversa721 for your tips and warnings, all very important .

To make sure that I could benefit more from your post, could you please
provide the LINK to the CROCK POT version that you've been studying?

I've been focussing on this version by TRO, and it sorts by column 8.

https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/Filter-Exchange/TRO-CROCK-POT-SLOW-COOKERS-FOR-SWING-TRADERS/67200

Thanks again for your time and for sharing.

Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157466
Ignore Cheese
8/29/2021 1:30:19 PM

https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/Filter-Exchange/TRO-S-CROCK-POT-2-0/115856/100
SAFeTRADE 8/29/2021 9:48:59 AM
Made one(1) tweak. Why not go with the up trend short term? Can you find the tweak?
=======================================================================

THANK YOU, SAFeTRADE

You tweaked to give CROCK POT the important condition of a short-term up trend
set{sigup, count(Stochastic %K(5,3,3) crossed above Stochastic %d(5,3,3),1)}

Without the important condition of a short-term up trend, then the dire warnings
by VenturaTrader and redversa721 will likely kick in.

This reminded me of a rule by TRO and Muddy Wallman: WAIT FOR GREEN.

Thanks again.

ron22
255 posts
msg #157469
Ignore ron22
8/29/2021 10:13:34 PM

https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/Filter-Exchange/TRO-S-CROCK-POT-2-0/115856/100
This reminded me of a rule by TRO and Muddy Wallman: WAIT FOR GREEN.
Thanks again.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
snappyfrog, cheese,VenturaTrader,redversa721, and SAFeTrade: Thank you all very much for your valuable input.

I understand that WAIT FOR GREEN means at open wait for the price to get and stay above previous day's close. Sometimes the price gaps up and then goes down before it reaches a 2% target.
One question:
Do you think it would be beneficial on gaps up to: A) wait for 20 cent gain, B) wait for 1/2% gain, C) wait to hold GREEN for 10 minutes, or D) wait for price to be above previous day's high before entering a trade?
I would appreciate any feedback . Thank you. Ron


Mactheriverrat
2,953 posts
msg #157470
Ignore Mactheriverrat
modified
8/29/2021 11:12:26 PM

When I see posts about different filters from TRO to 13th_floors and many others. I try and find different entry.

I came with this add on (one of many like Guppy, or Alligator system or others) of using EMA(13) and the Elder Impluse system. It can really be used with Stockcharts.com free version with the Elder Impluse as candle use.

-------------------
Draw ema(13)
/* 1313 is number of consecutive days EMA(13) above (+)/below(-) previous EMA(13) */
set{1313b,days( ema(13) is above ema(13) one day ago ,250)}
set{1313a,days( ema(13) is below ema(13) one day ago,250)}
set{13x13, 1313a - 1313b} and add column 13x13 {13_x_13}

Set{cntema13aboveema13,count( eMA(13) > eMA(13) 1day ago,1)}
draw cntema13aboveema13

Set{cntema13aboveema13b,count( eMA(13)< EMA(13) 1day ago,1)}

draw cntema13aboveema13b
draw MACD Fast Line(10,24,8)

do not draw macd Histogram(10,24,8) set{var1, macd Histogram(10,24,8)}
draw var1 Legend{var1, macd Histogram(10,24,8)} PlotType{var1,zerobar}

redversa721
154 posts
msg #157472
Ignore redversa721
8/29/2021 11:29:58 PM

Cheese , here is the version I am using

Fetcher[
/* TRO STAT SCAN for SWING TRADERS - use only on Saturday and Sunday



*/


set{whiop, weekly high - weekly open}
set{Long_Profit, whiop / weekly open }
set{wkProfitPct, 100 * Long_Profit }

set{onepct, count(Long_Profit > .01 , 52)}
set{twopct, count(Long_Profit > .02 , 52)}
set{triggered, count(Long_Profit > .02 , 1)}

DRAW TRIGGERED

set{onepcttriggered, count(Long_Profit > .01 , 1)}
set{twopcttriggered, count(Long_Profit > .02 , 1)}

add column wkProfitPct
add column onepct {hit 1% target over last 52 weeks}
add column twopct {hit 2% target over last 52 weeks}

and add column separator
add column onepcttriggered {hit 1% target this week}
add column twopcttriggered {hit 2% target this week}
and add column separator
and add column weekly open {wopen}
and add column weekly high {whigh}
and add column weekly low {wlow}
and add column weekly close {wclose}
and add column separator

close is above 5
average volume(90) above 500000
TWOPCT ABOVE 44

/* sort column 7 descending
Original TRO Cookpot
*/

sort column 5 descending
chart-display is weekly
]






Cheese
1,374 posts
msg #157473
Ignore Cheese
8/29/2021 11:52:20 PM

https://www.stockfetcher.com/forums/Filter-Exchange/TRO-S-CROCK-POT-2-0/115856/99999

redversa721 8/29/2021 11:29:58 PM

Cheese , here is the version I am using

/* TRO STAT SCAN for SWING TRADERS - use only on Saturday and Sunday



*/

set{whiop, weekly high - weekly open}
set{Long_Profit, whiop / weekly open }
set{wkProfitPct, 100 * Long_Profit }

set{onepct, count(Long_Profit > .01 , 52)}
set{twopct, count(Long_Profit > .02 , 52)}
set{triggered, count(Long_Profit > .02 , 1)}

DRAW TRIGGERED

set{onepcttriggered, count(Long_Profit > .01 , 1)}
set{twopcttriggered, count(Long_Profit > .02 , 1)}

add column wkProfitPct
add column onepct {hit 1% target over last 52 weeks}
add column twopct {hit 2% target over last 52 weeks}

and add column separator
add column onepcttriggered {hit 1% target this week}
add column twopcttriggered {hit 2% target this week}
and add column separator
and add column weekly open {wopen}
and add column weekly high {whigh}
and add column weekly low {wlow}
and add column weekly close {wclose}
and add column separator

close is above 5
average volume(90) above 500000
TWOPCT ABOVE 44

/* sort column 7 descending
Original TRO Cookpot
*/

sort column 5 descending
chart-display is weekly
===========================================================================



THANK YOU very much, redversa721.
Very kind of you.


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